And what I want to highlight particularly would be the opportunity perhaps to reach to major employers who have lots of transit employees dependent on that system who could convene training that could happen at their workplace, to engage those commuters not in their run for the train, but to sort of sit down and talk a little bit more, that that kind of outreach would certainly be very helpful.
The final thing I want to -- I want to also mention here is a program that I would really highlight up in Logan -- up in Logan Airport in Boston. It's a program called Logan Watch. And it really is to say that the transit system we have more than just the trains and passengers on the trains, we have train stations. We have shoe shine boys, and we have newspaper dealers and so forth, and they're being involved because they understand again, like we saw with (inaudible), they understand the rhythm of that place. Getting them involved is a very important way to go forward.
Logan Watch is a system by which everybody who works in the terminal is giving some training, and the goal should be annual training so that they understand the environment they're in and they can be a help. That's a way in which we can do.
I've run out of time here, so I just want to conclude by saying, finally, the focus on resilience that I often have been preaching is not an exercise in resignation and pessimism. Focusing on ability to also respond and recover to incidents is a way to deter the incident from happening.
And so the extent in which we can plus up more investment in response and recovery exercises and so forth for incidents should they happen both accidental and manmade, the more I think you're going to have actually a safer system. It doesn't look like a soft target, going back to what I was saying about the threat, it is, in fact, something that makes sense pragmatically to do, but it also has real value in terms of our goal of hopefully mitigating the risk to the mass transit system.
Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
LIEBERMAN: Thanks, Dr. Flynn. That was very interesting testimony. And I'm not a regular commuter on Metro-North, but when I do get on the train to go to New York, it's -- it is -- there's a sociology of train travel.
And that you're absolutely right, there are people around there every morning, every afternoon. They know each other. There's a certain extent to which they socialize. There's a certain extent, as you indicated with the cell phone incident, where they know at certain hours they hardly talk to each other because they're reading their papers or their memos for the day.
Anyway, that was very practical and insightful testimony.
Let's do a seven-minute round to start out here.
Administrator Pistole, let me begin with you and ask you to focus in and to the extent that you can, in open session, indicate to us what did -- if anything -- did TSA do after the evidence came out of the bin Laden compound in Pakistan that he, at least, was urging Al Qaida to think about -- specifically about an attack on a rail system in the U.S. on or around September 11th, 2011.
PISTOLE: Mr. Chairman, we started off on Monday morning following the president's announcement Sunday night, May 2nd, Monday morning, and did a conference call with all the key stakeholders in industry as part of a group, what's known as the Policy Advisory Group -- the PAG -- to say this has happened, just be aware of possible retaliatory action that may be taken either spontaneously by somebody who is a sympathizer to bin Laden or Al Qaida in general, or that may have always been a triggering mechanism that if bin Laden or Zawahiri, number two in Al Qaida, now moved up to number one, that may be a triggering device.
So we did that call just for awareness. It was then, two, two and a half days later, late Wednesday, Thursday, before the -- the media exploitation, the document exploitation from the compound about that specific threat from February of 2010 that noted the rail attack on the 10th anniversary.
As soon as we got that information and the tear line, the declassified portion of that from the intelligence community, we reconvened that -- that group and then did a document dissemination, intelligence dissemination to all the stakeholders in the industry to say, OK, here's specific information. Now, it is over a year old, but it cites an upcoming event -- the 10th anniversary, 10th commemoration of 9/11, and so be aware that because of the death, that may again trigger some activity to move up from the 10th anniversary.